Forum: Inkscape Logo for SVG Open 2009

Posted by Jon A. Cruz (Guest)
on 2009-03-26 04:04
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Hello all,

I just wanted to put out that SVG Open 2009 is looking for header
graphics for their new website... which is about to go live.
SVG Open 2008 had a subtle header with outlines of the castles in
Nuremberg, so is probably not good for this year's conference in
California.

If anyone is interested, this is a great opportunity to showcase both
SVG and Inkscape. I believe that the site will be able to serve SVG
directly for browsers that support it.
Posted by Andreas Neumann (Guest)
on 2009-03-26 08:40
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Hi all,

Thanks Jon, for bringing this to the attention of the Inkscape artists.

Here is what we have currently: http://www.svgopen.org/20xx/

The idea is to use the dimensions 850x200 pixel and that the graphics
whould fit into the existing color scheme displayed at
http://www.svgopen.org/20xx/ - although this is not written in stone and
we are certainly open to change the colors. Also, the header graphics
should somehow relate to the conference location and theme: California,
Silicon valley, SVG, open web graphics.

I would like to add that of course we will try to reward your 
contribution
somehow - we could offer a free conference pass (and dinner event) if 
you
are coming to the conference, as an example.

I'd like to set the website live at http://www.svgopen.org/2009/ by
Monday, but if we don't get anything by then, we can certainly exchange
the header graphics at a later stage. This wouldn't be a problem.

I'd also like to mention that we hope to have Inkscape contributions at
the conference, both from developers but also artists or other content
developers.

Thanks a lot,
Andreas

On Thu, March 26, 2009 4:03 am, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
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Posted by Jozef Legény (Guest)
on 2009-03-26 23:50
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On Thursday 26 March 2009 04:03:13 Jon A. Cruz wrote:
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Hello

I had some spare time so I gave the header a shot. Here is the link to 
the SVG
file : 
http://intarbutt.info/Data//Downloads/SVG/20092603_02_svgopen2009.svg

I'm open to any criticism and suggestions.

Cheers
  Jozef
Posted by Abrolag (Guest)
on 2009-03-26 23:59
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:47:49 +0100
"Jozef Legény" <akumaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> > SVG and Inkscape. I believe that the site will be able to serve SVG
> 
> I had some spare time so I gave the header a shot. Here is the link to the SVG 
> file : http://intarbutt.info/Data//Downloads/SVG/20092603_02_svgopen2009.svg
> 
> I'm open to any criticism and suggestions.
> 
> Cheers
>   Jozef
> 


I like this a lot. You've got just about everything there, and the
image looks fresh and crisp. I especially like the touch of having the
control nodes showing on the 0 of 20

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Posted by Andreas Neumann (Guest)
on 2009-03-27 09:14
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Hi Jozef,

Thank you for your draft! It looks good to me for a start.

We'd need to modifiy it a bit to include the following:
* the SVG logo or parts of the logo (see
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/SVG.svg) - we'd need 
to
include at least the flower/star-shaped thing - for a bit of brand
recognition
* the conference claim: "SVG coming of age" ...
* the conference location and date: Mountainview CA, October 2-4 2009

See http://www.svgopen.org/20xx/ for the three issues listed above.

Should I give it a try for the modifications, or would you continue to
work on it?

Thanks again,
Andreas

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Posted by Jozef Legény (Guest)
on 2009-03-27 13:43
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Hello

I've made the necessary modifications to the banner. As for the position 
of the
SVG logo and the claim i'm not really sure so i made several tries and 
compiled
them here. http://www.imageox.com/share/373231-svgopenopt.png

Personally i prefer the first one of which you can find the SVG file 
here.
http://intarbutt.info/Data//Downloads/SVG/20092703_01_svgopen2009v2.svg

Feel free to modify the image as you like, or drop a word here and I'll 
modify
it accordingly.

Best regards
  Jozef
Posted by Jeff Schiller (codedread)
on 2009-03-27 14:33
Jozef,

I really like your submission, it's crisp and sharp.

Andreas Neumann wrote:
> * the conference claim: "SVG coming of age" ...

I'm wondering if this is really needed in the banner (seems to make 
things just a little too cluttered).  Anyway, here are some suggestions 
on 
http://intarbutt.info/Data//Downloads/SVG/20092703_01_svgopen2009v2.svg 
for one more delta:

1) Shorten the tag line to "Coming of Age"
2) Move the tag line tspan to x="180" y="175" (under the bridge above 
the mountain)
3) As a result of the above move, it will probably be necessary to 
change the gradient to something more contrasting with the sky
4) The year is getting truncated from "2009" to "200" in Firefox and 
Opera.  Not sure how to fix this, sorry.

Regards,
Jeff
Posted by Lucas Franco (Guest)
on 2009-03-27 14:47
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My try

http://i40.tinypic.com/2hp2hxj.png
Posted by Sam Mason (Guest)
on 2009-03-27 15:25
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:40:20PM +0100, Jozef Legény wrote:
> Personally i prefer the first one of which you can find the SVG file here.
> http://intarbutt.info/Data//Downloads/SVG/20092703_01_svgopen2009v2.svg
> 
> Feel free to modify the image as you like, or drop a word here and
> I'll modify it accordingly.

It may be worth converting the text to paths as Chrome seems to have
trouble getting it in the right place.

  http://samason.me.uk/~sam/20092703_01_svgopen2009v2.png

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Posted by Jozef Legény (Guest)
on 2009-03-27 18:01
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I agree with that,

however the conversion will be done in the end as a final step as 
changes may
still occur to the image

Firefox too has a little glitch : it doesn't show the last 9 in 2009 in 
the text
at bottom right

for the time being the rendering by inkscape 0.46-devel should be taken 
as
reference (i always use a build no older than three or four days)
Posted by Andreas Neumann (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 00:11
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Hi Jozef and others,

I took your work and tried a few modifications:

http://www.svgopen.org/20xx/pics/svg_header_bridge_modifications_andi.png
http://www.svgopen.org/20xx/pics/svg_header_bridge_modifications_andi.svg

I changed the text positions and text contents, rearranged the "SVG-sun"
and added shadows. I think the position of the sun is better in the east
- since SVG is on the rise and not on the sunset ... - there is
contradiction with the shadows, however ;-)

What do you think?

The final SVG version needs some tweaking of course (proper SVG fonts
and code cleanup)

Regarding SMIL: if you really want to do something it should be very
subtile and not annoying ...


Thanks for your input and feedback,
Andreas
Posted by Andreas Neumann (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 00:13
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Hi Lucas,

Thank you for your contribution. I forwarded it to the conference
organizers for discussion and will get back to you.

Thanks a lot,
Andreas
Posted by Jozef Legény (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 01:21
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Hi

I like the new position of the SVG "sun" and text.

As for the shadow on the svg logo it seems a bit odd (shadow on sun) but 
it
gives the banner some depth and some more cartoonish look which I like.

However I think a thinner (1px) black border on the "SVG Open 2009" text 
would
be nicer.

http://www.imageox.com/share/373721-svgopen200.png

I also prefer fonts you used but since I don't have them I used the old 
one to
illustrate my point.

Cheers
  Jozef
Posted by Plácido Sousa (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 09:15
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Another try

Just some modifications.
I tried to keep the original idea which I liked.



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> > Hi Jozef and others,
> > - since SVG is on the rise and not on the sunset ... - there is
> >
> > > Firefox too has a little glitch : it doesn't show the last 9 in 2009 in
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Posted by Plácido Sousa (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 09:39
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Another one with improvements after seeing the other works.

Mostly shadows

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Plácido Sousa <placidoaps@gmail.com> 
wrote:

>> Hi
>>
>> > Hi Jozef and others,
>> > - since SVG is on the rise and not on the sunset ... - there is
>> >
>> > > Firefox too has a little glitch : it doesn't show the last 9 in 2009
>> > >>> here.
>> > >
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Posted by Jozef Legény (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 14:28
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Hi

Looking at the pictures posted so far I have this opinion :

 - The text "mountain view CA, ..." is better looking on the mountais on 
the
right side as it is more 'curvy', creates a nice synergy with the
word 'mountain'.

- The SVG 'sun' is better on the east as, like Andreas said, it 
symbolises dawn
and it also moves the focal point to the right where the name and the 
place of
the conference is.

- 'California' label is redundant, there is already a number of labels 
on the
banner so removing it will have positive effect

- I finally prefer the presence of the node-handles on the text, gives 
it the
right vectorish look. It might be however misleading for people not 
familair
with vector editing software. A topic to discuss then...

I took the version from Plácido Sousa and made some changes according to 
the
preceding.

SVG : 
http://intarbutt.info/Data//Downloads/SVG/20092803_01_svgopen2009v3.svg
PNG : http://www.imageox.com/share/373916-svgopen200.png

Basically i moved the SVG-sun, deleted the white halo on the base of the 
bridge
and changed the color of the claim text.

Further remarks are welcome

Cheers
  Jozef
Posted by Lucas Franco (Guest)
on 2009-03-28 21:33
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Hi
First of all, sorry for mi english, i am from Argentina and not speak
english fracuently :D .

This are the second try, i add some ideas from  Jozef, i hope not make 
he
ungry :D ...
This design I add aodes,the  "Mountain Views CA" words, the logo Sun, 
the
font and some things more.
I Have 2 versions, one "lighting" oand other "Darker".

Additionaly, i upload the SVG if someone is interesting in make some 
changes
in firefox look bad, open it with Inkscape or some program like it . Is 
All.

The image:
http://i44.tinypic.com/r7k40g.png

The SVG:
http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=ahebm0wmdg (FileHosting mirrors)
Posted by Guillermo Espertino (Guest)
on 2009-03-30 13:16
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Hi. I took the Jozef's banner and did some minor adjustments.
It looked very good but, in my opinion, had some minor defects (like
some overlappings that could be avoided, some elements too close or too
big and things like that.
I also added a gradient on the buildings shadows.

Here's the file.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/255376/20092803_01_svgopen2009v3b.svg

Gez.
Posted by frank gaude' (Guest)
on 2009-03-30 13:23
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Guillermo Espertino wrote:
>
>   
Great work!

frank
Posted by Andreas Neumann (Guest)
on 2009-03-30 13:38
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Yes - I also think that the SVG Open text and the buildings should not
overlap.

Currently it looks like the bridge theme is in favour - but let's wait
for another day ...

Thanks,
Andreas
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