Inkscape Forum Inkscape > Tiled Clones Trace Question

Hi,

I'm playing around with the Trace option for tiled clones and I'm
having a problem.

I'm creating an 8x8 grid of tiled rectangles overtop of a bitmap (I
tried this with a gradient filled rectangle underneath as well). Using
the trace tab, i can get the clones to be output based on presence,
opacity, and size, but I can't seem to get them to be created based on
the underlying object's color as is described here:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Tiles-Trace.html

I've made sure the base object has an unset fill (which the tooltip
and article recommend) but I still can't recreate the example in
Tavmjong's guide.

Any clues as to what I'm doing wrong?

RQ

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Richard Querin <rfquerin@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Tiles-Trace.html
>
> I've made sure the base object has an unset fill (which the tooltip
> and article recommend) but I still can't recreate the example in
> Tavmjong's guide.
>
> Any clues as to what I'm doing wrong?
>
> RQ
>

Actually, this is very weird. When I check the tiled clones, they DO
have the colour that the underlying bitmap image had, but they don't
show that colour!? When I click on one of the clones, it shows me a
certain colour for fill and stroke, and everything appears to have
100% opacity, but the rectangle clone in question still appears to
have it's original stroke and no fill, unchanged. Why would it show me
the object has color and full opacity and not show it?

Confused.

RQ

You're not working in outline mode are you?

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Aaron Elmquist <ironranger@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> You're not working in outline mode are you?
>

Nope. Just checked. It's in normal mode.

RQ

The rectangles weren't in a group by any chance ?

Rob A

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Rob Antonishen
<rob.antonishen@gmail.com> wrote:
> The rectangles weren't in a group by any chance ?
>
> Rob A
>

No. Just a rectangle with a solid black border and unset fill. I'm
doing this in 0.46 under XP, so I just fired up Inkscape in VMware
under Hardy Heron and got the exact same behaviour. The clones all
have different fill colours when you look at the fill/stroke dialog or
the legend in the bottom left when they're selected, but yet they all
just show the black border and no fill.

RQ

Try setting both the fill and outline to unset.

Rob A.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Rob Antonishen
<rob.antonishen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Try setting both the fill and outline to unset.
>
> Rob A.
>

Just did that. Still when I create the clones (they all get created
even though they're not visible) and they don't show up with any fill
on screen. Yet when I window them to select one, it shows that it has
the color of the image in that area for both the fill and stroke and
full opacity, yet it's invisible on screen.

Have you tried it on your end to see if I'm imagining things? :)

RQ

I'm using .46 devel june 19 on XP and it works fine for me. (Just tried)

Rob A.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Rob Antonishen
<rob.antonishen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using .46 devel june 19 on XP and it works fine for me. (Just tried)
>
> Rob A.
>
>

Can you fire me over an svg of this (and embed images if any before 
sending).?

Thanks,

RQ

Not that I don't believe you Rob. ;)

Richard-

I replied to you and the list but the list one bouced because of the
attachment size (darn embedded images...).

Hope you got it.

Rob A.

Oh man. I figured it out once I examined the file you attached.

I was mistakenly setting the fill and stroke to "none" with the 'X"
button, not UNsetting them with the "?" button in the Fill&Stroke
dialog. It works as advertised now.

Silly mistake. Thanks for the help guys!


RQ


On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Rob Antonishen

Heh!  I discovered the value of "unset" when working with grouped
objects. It is kind of wierd (as they draw in black, and I don't know
if changing the unset representation is an option anywhere).

Glad you figured it out!

Rob A.