Ruby Forum Rails-core (closed, excessive spam) > Documentation issues in Lighthouse

Posted by Tim Haines (Guest)
on 17.07.2008 05:39
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Hi there,

I'm wondering if a decision has been made as to whether it's desirable
to have issues logged in lighthouse that are about documentation only?

Seems to me it would be good to allow people to log issues re
documentation somewhere..  For those that find issues but don't have
the resources to submit a patch at the time..

Cheers,

Tim.
Posted by Pratik Naik (pratik)
on 17.07.2008 13:36
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I am very sure that the total time you spent in writing that
ticket+this email, would have been sufficient to write the doc patch.

It's very unlikely that anyone else would spend time on an open doc
ticket, related to some corner case.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Tim Haines <TMHaines@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cheers,
>
> Tim.
> >
>



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Cheers!
- Pratik
http://m.onkey.org
Posted by Clemens (Guest)
on 17.07.2008 13:46
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If you really want to contribute actively to Rails' documentation, you
should ask Pratik for commit rights to the docrails project. This way,
it's just:
- edit the source code
- git commit -a -m 'Patched xyz'
- git push

As Pratik says, writing a ticket would be more time consuming than
actually writing the patch.

- Clemens
Posted by Tim Haines (Guest)
on 17.07.2008 22:11
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Hi Guys,

I understand that if I'm fully learned up on git, AND I know the 
solution to
the issue found, it's probably very simple to make a patch.  The thing 
is,
I'm not skilled in git yet, and yes, I know this is an opportunity to
learn.  Right now I don't have time.  By removing my issue you're saying
that if I'm unable to make the patch, you don't want to hear about the
issue.

I guess my point is that if you're choosing not to accept issues where 
the
documentation is inconsistent with how the framework works, and you're 
not
accepting issues where the documentation is wrong, then you're losing an
opportunity to improve the framework/docs when the people finding these
issues aren't in a position to make a patch.  If someone finds an issues 
and
logs it, then they my be back to fix it when they have time.  But, I 
haven't
really followed Rails core, and maybe that just doesn't happen here.

That's about the extent of my caring for now.  :-)  It comes down to 
"IMO
removing valid issues just because they involve docs is a bad idea". 
Moving
on..

Tim.
Posted by Pratik Naik (pratik)
on 17.07.2008 22:45
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Hey Tim,

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Tim Haines <tmhaines@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I understand that if I'm fully learned up on git, AND I know the solution to
> the issue found, it's probably very simple to make a patch.  The thing is,
> I'm not skilled in git yet, and yes, I know this is an opportunity to
> learn.  Right now I don't have time.

If you need any kind of help in making the patch, you can always hit
me up in #rails-contrib. I'm usually always around.

> By removing my issue you're saying
> that if I'm unable to make the patch, you don't want to hear about the
> issue.

Not really. If you're looking to have a disucssion when you're not
100% sure about something, or want your opinions to be heard by a much
larger crowd, you should always try mailing list first.

> I guess my point is that if you're choosing not to accept issues where the
> documentation is inconsistent with how the framework works, and you're not
> accepting issues where the documentation is wrong, then you're losing an
> opportunity to improve the framework/docs when the people finding these
> issues aren't in a position to make a patch.

I personally think ( from what I've seen so far ), no one will ever
notice a ticket like that. And it'll go unnoticed for months hidden at
the very bottom of the pile of open tickets.

> If someone finds an issues and
> logs it, then they my be back to fix it when they have time.  But, I haven't
> really followed Rails core, and maybe that just doesn't happen here.

It depends on the severity of the issue. For very corner cases, yeah,
it rarely happens. No one usually comes back to fix them, till
someone, who has time, cares enough to submit a patch.

> It comes down to "IMO removing valid issues just because they involve docs is a bad idea".  Moving on..

Closing the ticket doesn't remove them. They'll still show up in search 
results.

--
Cheers!
- Pratik
http://m.onkey.org
Posted by Tim Haines (Guest)
on 17.07.2008 22:52
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Pratik <pratiknaik@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hey Tim,
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Tim Haines <tmhaines@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
>
> If you need any kind of help in making the patch, you can always hit
> me up in #rails-contrib. I'm usually always around.
>
>
Pratik,

Thanks for the response.  I'll probably come find you in #rails-contrib 
in
the future.  Cheers for the heads up on the channel.

Tim.